Right. And so you're part of the crowd. And what I try and do with some recordings is if it's a good band but the vocals are dicey I will sometimes say to the band you know it's really a good recording but it's kind of problematic because there are a few too many vocals and what sounds good live doesn't come across necessarily to somebody who's not familiar with the band and doesn't -- because people will forgive anything if they know the band and they know the musicians.