He had to have a bass drum, yeah. He was playing them shows. His hands were vrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, bam, but I mean here. I used to watch him play for dances. Boston was one of those towns. They had a lot of tap dancers and all that. That whole thing going. During that time, when you were young coming up, everything was very cliquish. Youngsters had a hard time. When you were young you had to - what'd they say? You had to keep the tempo. A drummer had to keep - you couldn't vary. You had to keep the tempo. You couldn't rush or go forward. When you're young you may have a tendency to want to go ahead. So it's very - it was hard coming up there. But it was good.