Yeah. Well, George Adams was a little older. He went with Mingus later. Carl Schroeder was there. I had several different people. And I was hustling during then. I had a lot of different gigs. Got a record contract quick with Mainstream. They still got a lot of stuff back there. Some interesting stuff, too. You talk about - I don't know if you want to call it crossover or - what's the other word?