But when I think about it, its like, everything was a game to me. But, at the same time, I would listen to these recordings, not knowing about a recording console, not knowing about high-end microphones, not knowing about reverb, not knowing about concert halls or churches. I didnt know anything at all, other than the fact that their record sounded better than what I was doing. So I would start experimenting with distances. Wed do it in the living room. It just didnt sound right. So we moved to the bathroom. Then it was reverberant, but it was too small. It was too loud. Its too live sounding. So then wed keep the microphone in the bathroom, and Wynton Marsalis Marsalis would stand in the hall. Hed play from the hall. That didnt work. Then we went outside. That didnt sound right outside. We had the extension chord running through the window and a tape deck and all of this. I never figured it out while <span class="fullMatch" id="match_82">Branford Marsalis</span> and Wynton Marsalis Marsalis were in the house, but at some point while I was in high school I saw the 100 great jazz records. There was a picture of Kind of Blue session by Don Hunstein. It showed that they were in this big hall. It was a studio, but it was a converted church. About the time Wynton Marsalis Marsalis had done a couple of recordings, and he was always complaining about the sound. "Why dont these things sound right? " In fact, when he - his audition tape for CBS - he did a demo for CBS. They went to the studio. The studio used compression. They had the real small sound. I recorded - as he and my dad were preparing, I recorded with my stereo mic. He was like, "Man, this thing you did sounds better than what they did. " They had that polish on it. They had that studio thing. Mine sounded rougher, but it was more ambient, it was more acoustic, and it was better balanced. So I see this picture in the book. I told Branford Marsalis Marsalis - I think it was Branford - I said, "I saw this picture, and it looks like they recorded in a big room. It looks like - what kind of rooms are you recording in? " He said, "Its a small room. " So we started to do research and went to Sony - CBS Records at that point. They allowed me to look through all their pictures. I found - they sent me about 50 or 60 pictures. Many of them showed the microphone setup and the size of the room. It gave me an idea about that. Branford Marsalis Marsalis found RCA - he discovered RCA studios. That was the biggest room in New York at the time. Thats where a lot of the recordings began.