It was a strange - Kenny Garrett was at the tail end of the other band. The situation was not really that hip, actually. Like I said, the way that I came into that particular band was - it wasnt as natural - you know what I mean? - as when I played with Elvin Jones. But playing with Elvin Jones, I sat in at a gig with Elvin Jones, and he was like - he called me up, said, Come join the band. " I said, "Whoa, okay. "