Elvin Jones the same way. But Elvin Jones - I had more of a personal connection with Elvin Jones, for whatever reason. Blakeys band, he had so many guys. It was just a different - Blakey was on his way out, whereas I think Elvin Jones - Blakey was up there. I think he passed on three, four years after that period when I played with him. But Elvin Jones - I think the main connection with Elvin Jones was my temperament and my personality. He knew that things would never get so raggily with me. I just wouldnt allow for it, whereas some musicians will come in, and theyll play a lot, but theyre not so much interested in the band dynamic or whats going on, as long as they state their piece. I think he saw and helped me to cultivate the leadership qualities. Like I say, Ive always had that - Im cool about things. Just try to be helpful to the other musicians who might come in. I learned a lot from Elvin Jones.