Yeah, the guy on drums, he had a tough time. His name escapes me right now. But it was tough. I wish I could have played with him and had like Herlin Riley, one of the New Orleans - because hed come from New Orleans. If he had had one of them New Orleans guys there, itd have been another whole thing. That was just it. I think he came from that era where they didnt spend a lot on the band. They didnt - because whenever there were t.v. shows, they would hire a studio band. They would let the - whatever the studio orchestra was, Ray Charles would play with them. So the working band never played on the t.v. shows or anything like that. I think it was just a question of - that was the management again. Their attitude was, just basically dont pay anything for these musicians, and they kept the majority of the flow.