She really does. She sure does. And you know you can, I remember being, I was house pianist at Birdland for two years. And the Basie band played there frequently. And usually when the band played, Birdland was a small club, and the band took up the entire stage and part of the band was really down on the floor almost. And Basie was sitting at the piano and the piano was on the floor. And so the exciting thing was to hear Joe Williams get up and sing to -- it wasn't a predominantly White audience in those days. Because it was the, at Birdland, it was a very hip contingent of people who came downtown consistently. So you had 60/40 one night -- White/Black; and 60/40 the next night -- Black/White. So it really was a very interesting balance in that particular club. And so it was interesting to me regardless of which way the balance was in terms of the ethnic background, Joe would reach out and grab those folks with the classic things that he was doing with Basie in those days, and it didn't make any difference, it was just a straight arrow to that audience you know. And it was really a very hip audience. I mean this is the audience that was so hip that normally the piano was on the stage and I would be seated here and I could hear, they didn't realize it, they didn't realize it, but the people sitting right behind me I could hear their conversations. Sometimes I didn't want to. But I mean I could, you know, it was audible. And I'd be sitting there and the guy would be sitting behind me talking to his buddy. And he says "man, you know Bird doesn't sound as good tonight as he sounded night before last." "Night before last he was hip ..." And he'd name the players and these people were, these were not musicians. But these were people who had heard the music, had valid opinions as far as what ... as the quality of the music that they were listening to was. I miss that. I miss that. Because in those days they were getting it from Symphony Sid on the radio, on Nashville radio he was doing a coast to coast broadcast from midnight to six o'clock in the morning every night in the week. There was much more music. There was music, jazz on television, there was jazz all over. This is one -- since we don't have this this is one of the reasons that people don't relate to the music in the way that you and I perhaps would like to see them.