Well, that's a very moot point, you know, it's very, there's none of that after you, because by the time you do that you're behind. In other words, you both have to feel the same way, and you both know it when it's happening, it gets good. It's like life, you know, I mean a lot of things have a mutual feeling between you, and this goes for the whole band has the same feeling of the beat, and that has to be, well, it just happens automatically. You don't have to think about it. It's just a happy feeling and when you're in it you know it but you don't plan it that way it just happens. It's hard to put to words because it's just a feeling. It's a good feeling with the band in swinging. You can't teach it. You can't teach how to swing. It's what they say about golf. Golf is a game you can teach but you can't learn.