No, no, no, the one that they both worked with Cannonball, oh that was it, Cannonball.  Now they played a Blues, and let me tell you, they were playing the real funk, stunk down, knock me down Blues, you know. And that's what you don't hear too much. See so although they did play other things, they were able to play that because of the fact that they had this Blues background. And that's what's very important. And when you don't get a chance to experience playing the Blues, you really just, you really don't have any foundation for what you play. You know you have to have that kind of a background.  And I'm sure that any musician that even anyone that, your most modern Blues players, I mean jazz players, will tell you that. Some of them don't particularly feature that in their playing. But they have that Blues background that they can do it if they want to, you know. And that's what's really important.