That's right. See <span class="fullMatch" id="match_89">King Oliver</span>. In those days we'd have maybe six or seven guys following right within hearing distance, not to disrupt the second line, to listen to King Oliver blow, wait until he play his chorus, and he'd blow it at them. "Hey Joe, put that riff in there. " Him and <span class="fullMatch" id="match_92">Kid Rena</span>, he had his followers, and Buddie Petit had more followers than anybody.