That's right. Was a hell of trumpet player. He and Kid Rena were buddies from kids. All them people were friends. Come out the seventh ward. There was Wooden <span class="fullMatch" id="match_122">Joe Nicholas</span>]. He could play. Of that time, see, but time marches on. Wooden Joe Nicholas  Nicholas . Then there was Manuel Perez. There was Milford Piron. I seen him a couple of times, but he phased out.