Johnny Dave. Son Thomas was with Kid Rena. MacLean, Richard Mclean, great banjo player. George Guesnon. John Marrerro. Lawrence Marrero. Caffrey Darensbourg was working the Alley Club downtown, and he . . . I'd go to the club, and he'd see me out front by the bar. I was on long pants then, and he'd say, "Want to play a little while for me, man? Lay something on. " I'd say, "Yeah. " So I'd go back. The band relished me, because I think I had a little more spark than he had. Then I was trying to impress them too. Playing. Trying to jazz up the band. That's what I do now. I put that figure-eight stroke on them bands. I rigamarolle like I did on that record, and that spices up the bands.