Oh, yeah. My uncle . . . The Depression set in 1929. The Depression set, and there was no work here. People don't have no [? (inaudible)] ain't no work. So he wrote down here. He's my godfather, and he's interested in me, because he know I had ambition. He said, "Why don't you come up to New York? " I said, "New York? I heard of going to Chicago. I don't heard nobody leaving here going to New York. " But Milford Piron went up there. And the rest of them who went to Chicago to better their condition, went to New York, because New York was a step with more opportunities for you. Down here nobody imagine opening up a publishing company. Clarence Williams and them had that  kind of ambition. They knew the inner workings of recordings and royalties and all that. We didn't know nothing about royalties here. We didn't know [expletive deleted] here. You get away from here, you see that people got a claim to get credit in movies and credit on songwritings and song copies. It's a whole new ball game. So he say, "Come up here. " He said, "As long as I got a place, you got a place, so come on up. You'll get something to work, because you're ambitious. " That's what he told me. He says, "I'll send you a ticket. " I said "O.k. " Said, "We just have been married a year, and I want some money our furnitures. " Said, "What we going to do? " My mother said, "I'll take it. You manage to pay the furnitures if you don't want it. Furniture's real old. " That's how I got a ticket and I went to New York. In three months I sent for her.