You got that? We was talking about the states and the music business. The poor people in the South and the rich people in the South feel effects of a depression before them people in the great big cities. When I got to New York in 1930, there was talk of a depression. It actually hadn't hit New York City, because New York City's not a manufacturing city like Cleveland and Cincinnati and Pittsburgh. They manufacture things there. New York distributes the things over the phone. They have offices in New York. Have the European connection there, Oriental . . . Frisco [San Francisco] got the Oriental connection, and that's a entanglement.