My uncle Paul Barbarin was with King Oliver. He sent for his mother to come up. She said, "I'll take Willie Humphrey. " That's my uncle. He's two years older than me. I'm what? 10. Willie Humphrey's 12. So I started crying, "I want to go. " So they talked about it. Said all right. You take me too, so there's two of us. My grandmother and my grandfather and me [? (inaudible)] and Willie Humphrey, my uncle, we go to Chicago. Paul Barbarin. I'm there. I'm hearing music all the time, because Chicago's a all-night town. Speakeasy town. Me and Willie Humphrey would get up six o'clock in the morning and walk around the South Side. There was two clubs there. Had a hell of a entertainer. He was a drummer. I can't think of his name. It'll come to me. Ollie Powers. Ollie Powers. Put that name in. A big thing in Chicago jazz. Ollie Powers used to sing. Ollie Powers. And there was another club where Tony Jackson was. You see when you walk the streets, just about the ground is the sidewalk floor. There was a window. You could look down in the building. Me and my uncle used to go in there, Willie Humphrey, lay on our stomach and watch the people in the cabaret. People couldn't see us, but we be looking. This is 7 o'clock in the morning, and these people in there balling, and you look on the street, people going to school, people going to work, and we're up in the ? (inaudible)], laying on our stomach. You see the men kissing the women, feeling on the women. You see the band playing. I was looking at Ollie Powers and Tony Jackson in another club.