Yeah, The Mooche, but them fast movement. St. Louis Toodle-oo and them kind of things. You hear Wellman Braud. He's just a musician. You can dig that. He just take that tempo where he feel it should go. Duke Ellington didn't mind, because there was energy given, and it made his band swing, that had never swung before. The same thing was happening with Pops Foster with Luis Russell. The place, the Saratoga club where they're working, was loaded with bass players. All kinds of bass players. Come there playing tubas. They come there to see how to get with that bass fiddle. A lot of them fizzled out, didn't play no more, because their fingers got blisters on it. They didn't know how to work with that. You play bass, you got to develop a thick callous on your . . .