First big band was Luis Russell. Guitar player, Bill Johnson, used to get drunk, to the annoyance of Paul and Pops Foster. I'm there. So Bill Johnson don't show up or some [expletive deleted], so they send for me. But Luis Russell knew I'm a kid. He's looking for names in his band. I don't have no name, you understand? He's looking for a name. He want to get <span class="fullMatch" id="match_826">Lee Blair</span>, who had been with Jelly Roll Morton Morton, or <span class="fullMatch" id="match_827">Jeff Williams</span> and different hell of a guitars players who had changed from guitar to banjo. I just had changed from. I didn't tell you the story of my banjo, or did I?