You don't see Cab Calloway. Cab Calloway is listening. He always had stool pigeons in them big bands. They're always big-mouth cats in the band, talking about who's the greatest. The leader don't have to hear that he is. He hears what the musicians said. Said, "Teddy Bunn's the greatest guitar player. " "No, Bernard Addison. " "No, Bernard Addison. No, no. John Trueheart. " "Who's John Trueheart? " Say, "Bobby Johnson. " "No, Bill Johnson. " "No, no, man. The greatest is John Trueheart with Chick Webb. " So that stays in the leader's name. So he going to hire a musician, [? (inaudible)] I try to get John Trueheart. Can't get John Trueheart, because John Trueheart ain't going to leave <span class="fullMatch" id="match_928">Chick Webb</span>, because they come up together. Can't get Bobby Johnson. He's stationed in New York and he don't want to travel, because he got a hustle in the day with the numbers racket. So you . . . here I'm there. I'm ready to jump on anybody. I'll go with a elephant if the elephant's . . . [? (inaudible)] a camel. I say, "Let's go. I'm ready. " Because I done learned . . . I've learned to make that dollar and watch that watch. Steele told me. "They would be talking about, I can't drum. I can drum good as some of these drummers, but they don't respect me as a drummer. I've got to live with that. So you don't pay what people tell you. If everybody talk funny about you, it's [? (inaudible)] talk good about you. " Said, "You just go on, and don't get in no trouble. Do the best you can. " That's what I've been doing. That's why I'm here.