I'm with Lucky Millinder for three years. We played everything between Duke Ellington and Cab Calloway. What they didn't want, they shove in Lucky Millinder. Irving Mills was handling Lucky Millinder for a while. Lucky Millinder mess up with the money. Drank it. Throwed it away in the salary. They got mad with him. Said, "We got to get rid of this monkey. " So he never was a success no more, because you couldn't trust him to bring the salary back in. That was the end of . . . So I'm with Lucky Millinder's band. Lucky Millinder's hitting from here. Going, playing one-nighters here. Going to play a theater there and three or four one-nighters. He's hitting and missing. He's walking around all begging poor, but he done lost favor with the big dogs, the people who controlled everything. They said he's . . . you can't depend on him. I guess Lucky Millinder didn't like it, people taking a big slice of his money. Some people just can't stand that, but that's a part of the game. Them people got to keep their offices going. They don't mean to [? (inaudible)], but they got to get a certain amount of money from percentage point of calculation. What they do for you is with regard you have to pay. So that was . . . I'm with Lucky Millinder. Everybody's talking about Lucky Millinder's band. They got Tab Smith, Billy Kyle, Walter Johnson, who was one of the greatest drummers ever happened. He turned swing drumming around from all them . . . hitting them cymbals all. He came up with that smooth thing which Jo Jones and them did with Count Basie. That was Walter Johnson started that with Fletcher Henderson, because Kaiser Marshall had them  cymbals. Always beating on cymbals and disrupting the rhythm. But here come this smooth thing, where you can just [? (inaudible)]. You can simmer it down.