Berth, and you pull a curtain, and you sleep in there. The Pullman porter makes the bed for you. If you're fat, they have to get a ladder for you to get up in an upper berth, so Chu Berry, they put him down on the floor, because he's fat. I'm a newcomer. I'm due to have the third berth from the door, because that boy, that seniority, and it was . . . I'm supposed to take his place, but by hook or crook they didn't. They put me . . . you know. Chicanery. Underhand [expletive deleted]. They put me way in the back, up at the top. I didn't mind, because I'm successful now. I'm with Cab Calloway. I'm in the band now. Milt Hinton . . . When the band play in a theater, when they get through playing, Cozy Cole, he get off. Wipe hisself off, whatever. Then he go in his dressing room, and he's got a drum pad, and he's practicing paradiddles, ratamacues, flamadiddles, all them things out the book, all day. That's all. He's chewing gum and playing this. After ten minutes after the stage, he tend to his needs, he's practicing this expletive deleted]. They got me in a room with him. That [expletive deleted] monotonous. I done played a two-hour show. I don't want to hear nothing for the next hour. I don't want to hear no paradiddles, all that [expletive deleted]. He's playing his paradiddles, and it ain't swinging, like his show, gutsy swinging. You listen to that, so I tried to get out the room. I learned about the theater. Everybody wants to be on the first floor in the theater. The star's room is first. The next star is next. Them rooms. There's about six rooms on the first floor. That's all the superstars, because they do the hard work, and they got to get to their room right away, maybe to change. You can't be running up no stairs. You understand that? So I'm there with Cozy Cole. He's a star. I don't want to be in that room with them God-damn drums all in my ears. So I asked the valet, "Can I get another room? " He said, "Yeah, take any of them rooms out on the second floor. " I get me a room up there. I cleaned it out. Dizzy Gillespie joined the band, and they gave him a room way up in the roof, because the cats didn't like him, because he come there with this new music. That Chinese music. That's what Cab Calloway called it. So I'm closer. I say, "Come on over here, man. " He say, Where you at, Danny Barker? " We had been in Lucky Millinder's band for a while, because they had formed a clique to get rid of Harry Edison, but Harry Edison was a St. Louis gutbucket trumpet player, and they was going to have a clique got formed to get Charlie Shavers and who else, in that band? Charlie Shavers and somebody. They had planned to get rid of Harry Edison and get Dizzy Gillespie, because they went to school together.