Because I mean, okay I mean, I'd have to say I mean it's not that many, it's like a kid with a basketball. You see the kids all the time and it's just like basketball. You know there's nothing wrong with that I mean because it's just determination, like anything else.  If you put your mind to it and say I'm going to be the best musician, the best trumpet player, the best basketball player. But the kids nowadays, it's only maybe about twelve major league teams you know? And I mean how many can get on those teams and everything? I mean okay, we happened to be lucky we could make a living out of it and still making a living out of it. That's very fortunate.