But I was just saying that I was so fortunate to have the parents that I did, and I think that in itself says a lot about how I feel about education. You see I went back to school. For many, many years I did not see the necessity of matriculating. Every time I would feel mentally stagnant, I would just go take a course at Hunter or the New School -- I don't think they had the New School then -- but any school downtown. And I loved anthropology, I took a lot of courses in that; I loved psychology and I took a lot of courses in that; anything that I felt like that I wanted to do. So it was not until later years that one of the teachers at Queens College talked me into matriculating. And I'm glad he did because when I did graduate, I graduated magna cum laude, and for an old lady, that was pretty good.