Well you see what happened was, we traveled, and then when Charlotte was born, Milton came home and he went into the recording studios. So while, you know, he went on the road to Japan with Louis Armstrong in '53 I believe it was, and he came back and he said he ... Milton had studied with the best teachers in the whole wide world, and really became very proficient on his instrument. But he could not stand to stay in that band and just play the same music day in and day out, it was killing him. So he said he wasn't going on the road with Louis anymore. Well Joe Glaser was his manager at the time. And Joe said, and they're not talking to each other, they're talking to me and I'm talking, you know I'm the go between. But he says, Milton says, "no I'm going to stay home because my daughter's growing up and she's calling everybody daddy but me." So Joe says "well I'll tell you what, I will send, Mona tell him that if he will go on the road with Louis I will send a tutor send you and Charlotte and a tutor." So Milton says "well he could send a tutor for Mona, for Charlotte, for Milton and anyone else he wants, I'm not going on the road again and play that same music over and over again." But they finally worked it out.