Well he was always a dedicated musician as far as I'm concerned. The other name categories you're speaking of came from critics. You know that was the outside area. In the inside area, he was a dedicated musician. We used to rehearse and then he had singers he used to deal with, and then he used to write for a show band, for dancers in the show band in a club called Club DeLisa in Chicago. So he was always busy with music. So that was the main focus of his life was music.