Yeah. I first came to New York with the "Frogman. " And then I went back, that was my first observance of the in-person view of the Statue of Liberty. And then I said well I've got to come back here. And then I came back with Diana Washington. But while in Chicago I was lucky and fortunate enough to perform with Billie Holiday for about six months, on a local stint that she was dealing with in Chicago, with Billie Holiday and Ben Webster. So that was a pleasure, it was a real learning experience.