And I mean you must have it all in your head because I was watching last night -- I don't know what station, but I got Wynton Marsalis doing an interview with David Frost. And David Frost had a whole bunch of notes you know, and asked Wynton some very erudite question and then I don't know I wasn't too thrilled with his interviewing. And then he'd look at the paper again. Wynton is quite something. I got a kick out of the interview.